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Fold to Check-Raise on the Flop: BTN vs BB in 3-Max

PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:31 am
by TIGANCIC
Hi!
I’d like to clarify how to track situations where the BTN folds to a check-raise from the BB in a 3-Max format. The scenario is as follows:
Preflop:
BTN opens with a raise.
SB folds.
BB calls.

Flop:
BB checks.
BTN makes a c-bet.
BB responds with a check-raise.
BTN folds.
What filters and flags are best to use for these situations?
If you can share examples of statistics for PT4 or advice on the correct calculation logic, I’d really appreciate it.
Thank you!
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sum(if[
    tourney_hand_player_statistics.position = 0
    AND tourney_hand_summary.cnt_players = 3   
    AND NOT tourney_hand_summary.str_actors_p LIKE '%9%'
    AND tourney_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_face_raise
    AND lookup_actions_f.action = 'F'
, 1, 0])

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sum(if[
    tourney_hand_player_statistics.position = 0
    AND tourney_hand_summary.cnt_players = 3   
    AND NOT tourney_hand_summary.str_actors_p LIKE '%9%'
    AND tourney_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_face_raise
, 1, 0])

Re: Fold to Check-Raise on the Flop: BTN vs BB in 3-Max

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:49 am
by Flag_Hippo
TIGANCIC wrote:sum(if[
tourney_hand_player_statistics.position = 0
AND tourney_hand_summary.cnt_players = 3
AND NOT tourney_hand_summary.str_actors_p LIKE '%9%'
AND tourney_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_face_raise
AND lookup_actions_f.action = 'F'
, 1, 0])

The action the BTN takes on the flop wouldn't be a single fold - it will be bet/fold.

There is nothing in your columns that states this is a single raised pot where the BTN was the aggressor so limp calls will be counted since you just specified that the SB did not get involved.

You can count what you described with this:

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sum(if[
    tourney_hand_player_statistics.position = 0
    AND tourney_hand_summary.cnt_players = 3   
    AND tourney_hand_summary.str_actors_p = '08'
    AND tourney_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet
    AND lookup_actions_f.action = 'BF'
, 1, 0])


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sum(if[
    tourney_hand_player_statistics.position = 0
    AND tourney_hand_summary.cnt_players = 3   
    AND tourney_hand_summary.str_actors_p = '08'
    AND tourney_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet
    AND lookup_actions_f.action LIKE 'B_%'
, 1, 0])

Re: Fold to Check-Raise on the Flop: BTN vs BB in 3-Max

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:45 am
by TIGANCIC
Wow, thanks!