3bet pf in BB "Range"

[lifeisagame69]

Hi,

How can i know, the range of hand vilain 3bet in BB in HU match?

I don't wanna know just the range of hand, but the % of each combinaison.

For example AJo 80%, AA 100%, QJo 50%.

[WhiteRider]

You can get that kind of range in automated notes using NoteTracker, although not the percentages - is that what you've been looking at? NoteTracker notes are more for noting that something happened, not the exact stats of the situation.

If you select the player in the main application you can see that sort of information in the Holdem Hand Range Viewer (on the Statistics tab).

[lifeisagame69]

Yeah i'm looking about the %.

where is the holdem hand range viewer ?

I just got the beta today, do you have somewhere some introduction for how use the software or we hav to find out by ourself ?

[WhiteRider]

Click "View Stats" then "$" (or T) and Statistics. Select Holdem Hand Range Visualizer from the Report dropdown in the top-left.
We don't yet have documentation for PT4 - we've been concentrating on getting it to you! This will be added, though, and you may notice the video tutorial links on most pages - these aren't active yet, but will be added.
Please explore, and if you have any questions we'll be happy to help.

[lifeisagame69]

Wow seem like have a lot of new things, i'm already very excited :P

For the holdem hand range with the statistic button, I find this "pokerstove" interface is really better, better visibility for sure, i like it.

When i click on one hand (98o), on the left the second line is hands for the number of time we do the situation selected with that type of hand. Why don't put it this way :


Overal 3bet PF 23.3 (11 147)---> not sure what the second number mean, is it the total number of hand i decide to 3bet pf ?

hands 93 ----> Why don't put it this way hands/number total of hands like 93(number of hands i decide to 3bet)/ 150 (number total of hands i got 98o where i got the opportunity to 3bet.



For the calendar report :

At the bottom of each day column (or somewhere else) can you put a "total" line with also average stats ?

That give the advantage with a quick look to understasnd some patern, like to play on week end is ev+ than play on monday for example.

Also it would be nice to get one option to get a total and average statistic by day for a bigger period than just one month for accurate result(sample size blablabla).


I don't know what the leak tracker is all about with the overall luck curve can you explain wich situation is analyzed and how?

Also the leak tracker, i didn't see anything for telling us what the gree part is all about, what is the grey/black part, the black line and on what you base your analise.

[kraada]

For the range visualizer - in the Overall section you see the total percentage and the opportunities. For each hand you can see one of two values depending on what you have selected on the left side. If you select Range you see what percentage of their range was that hand (so you might see 9% for AA if 9% of the 3bet hands were aces) if you select Value you see what percentage of the time they had that hand in that spot that they made that action (so you might see 95% for AA). We give you the option to select what you want to see so that you can analyze exactly the information you want.

For the calendar - those are interesting suggestions, I'll make a note of them for potential discussion with the developers in the future.

Regarding LeakTracker: the black line is your value. The green area is the range associated with the best players' ranges. The grey area is more marginal and the dark grey area is accepted to be outside the realm of normal play. For more detail on any given stat if you click on it there is a link on the right hand side for a short video.

On the Bell Curve you see three points - one for sets, one for flushes and one for straights. Let's talk about sets first since it's the simplest point. We calculate how often you saw a flop with a pocket pair and are comparing how many times you actually hit your set to how many times you should (note: we're ignoring full houses and quads, we're just looking at sets here). The exact number you would expect is the Normal line. Since this is a random event we can do more than that though - we can calculate the variance and thus we display how far away from normal you are. If we looked at all players 34.1% would fall between normal and 34.1% between normal and unlucky. 13.6% would fall between lucky and very lucky, and 13.6% between unlucky and very unlucky, with 2.2% between very lucky and extremely lucky and 2.2% between very unlucky and extremely unlucky. For more on normal curves and standard deviation please see this page.

For flushes and straights we look at how often a draw was completed on the turn (or river) given that you saw the street in question (for straights we combine gutshots and open-ended straight draws), so the math is a bit more complicated. But the overall distribution of players within the population will remain the same.

In this way you can see if you are hitting your hands more or less likely than you would expect to and how far away from expectation you are in a meaningful way.

[lifeisagame69]

"For the range visualizer - in the Overall section you see the total percentage and the opportunities."

Ok i got it, most of my hand are between 0 and 3% i was thinking it was their winrate in BB/100 lol, my bad.
It's actually more awsome than whati was thinking, good job :)

i play a different website, how can i do like pt3 to add nickname and can review all my nickname stats like it s only one?
Also, i play MR.fish on stars and i play him also on PArtypoker under the nickname MR.Fich, how in the range visualizer i can add the other nickname for analise all his hand under the both nickname ?

For the calendar is actually a very interesting things for poker player and mostly pro poker player for got a better idea about the market/metagame they playing, i personally would love it and at least it seem easy to add it.

For the leak Tracker : "The green area is the range associated with the best players' ranges" where that come from ? my best winning player on my database ? some other big database?
Also, the explanatory video show some example who talk about specify number for NL player. I don't know if you will let it this way, but for beginer who don't play NL it may be confusing by it's nonsens.

For the Bell Curve : Why not show a graph like "all in adj" with the number, as the result will be more talkative, i guess that would improve this tool by a better visibility.

I still didn't really take a look to the software, i will and i will give you probably a ton of feedback.

[WhiteRider]

To add aliases click the little player icon next to your name in the top left. You can add aliases for other players in the same way - add one of their names to the player list first (select "Add Player" from the dropdown list).

LeakTracker ranges are based on research done on a range of winning players in different game types.

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking about the Bell Curve - do you mean that you want to see the numbers of hand types made and expected?

[lifeisagame69]

LeakTracker ranges are based on research done on a range of winning players in different game types.

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking about the Bell Curve - do you mean that you want to see the numbers of hand types made and expected?

For the leak buster you made a explanatory box for each statistic (example:VIP), I think you should make one for the leak buster himself, a small video where you explain what is actually leak buster with references to how you compare, this will make it more Valuable and this will be more professional.

Because anyone can type on google Training poker software and pay for random useless software.
Personally I can not give credit to leak buster why?

Because a winning player in 2 / 4 (limite poker play way Differently Than play a 30/60 (limit)and it's not only about there knowledge who differ but also because they don't play in the same metagame.

So we should at least be sure the leak buster compare our statistic from a winning player (must be good to precise what is a winning player for you? Wich winrate? just winning player or the top x% of winning player Etc.) of the same metagame. what I mean by metagame is that for example the games of 30/60 partypoker.com are different from that of merge.com and therefore the top winners must have different statistics, the change in rake, the different stakes etc..

So I think for a minimum of professionalism and for give some credit to the quality of this tool you should give more informations about it and more references.

What i mean about bell curve, is that number (at least for me, maybe not for every one) are more talkative than sentence.
So to have a number like we hit straightdraw 80% of time is a lot more talkative than i'm been very lucky(also to have the sample size for be sure about the accuracy of the result).
Sentence is usually more for recreational kiddo stuff when number is very specific and can be used again (maybe).

I didn't see you made one explanatory video aboutholdem hand range visualizer , things are very well explain and i'm totally addict to the opening awsome music lol.

In the holdem hand range visualizer plus statistics, let's say i selection the 3bet pf %, on the right ; fist line we got overall 3 bet PF : X (Y).
I like to get the overall sample size (for accurate purpose), but i want the % also. It may look capricious (since we can calculate it easily ourself), but in the actual poker community most of the time we ervery body use % (player, coach, etc) so it's really more convenient to have it visible there.

[lifeisagame69]

LeakTracker ranges are based on research done on a range of winning players in different game types.


I like to get the overall sample size (for accurate purpose)

forget about that sisnce the sample size is visible.